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Post by onepenguin0 on Aug 17, 2016 0:48:28 GMT
Pickle has to eat to live; he's not going to accept anything short of death as an excuse.
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Post by boi on Aug 17, 2016 2:11:59 GMT
Wait, darn, I forgot that Pickle is fighting Musashi to eat. Maybe Musashi is the author's way of killing off characters that he can't use as much anymore.
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Post by dannythm on Aug 22, 2016 13:44:07 GMT
122 out. blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1754624Was a long chapter and it seems it will add more insight in both Musashi and Pickle, and it seems the fight is really over. Now I ask, was Baki imagination training vs a 100kg mantis somehow a form of foreshadowing this? |
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Post by kenaih on Aug 22, 2016 20:03:15 GMT
So, last page says Pickle doesn't want to eat Musashi anymore, so looks like this is indeed over.
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Post by onepenguin0 on Aug 23, 2016 2:32:12 GMT
>Musashi is somehow also Jack's equivalent bug
wow thanks Motobe
maybe Jack woulda won
No, but this sucks. I wanted a climax, not whatever this is.
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Post by shenlong on Aug 23, 2016 12:32:38 GMT
What's that about jack and bugs ?
I'm satisfied with that ending. It's not like Pickle should be able to do anything anymore, with that many wounds. I'm curious to read the translation.
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Post by kenaih on Aug 23, 2016 13:23:35 GMT
What's that about jack and bugs ? I'm satisfied with that ending. It's not like Pickle should be able to do anything anymore, with that many wounds. I'm curious to read the translation. Basically, the last scene scene when Jack was all screwed up without moving and Pickle was about to eat him, but then sensed danger compared to a poisonous wasp ( based on his kid days experience, an apparently defenseless bug that if eaten will overwhelm you in pain ) so he just retreated without eating Jack. In my opinion, this is different... he didn't really compare Jack with that wasp he is so afraid of, just that last moment... he sensed Jack was planning something that could be dangerous. In Musashi's case, he is comparing the whole character as a poisonous wasp/bee + a fast butterfly he can't catch (remember the Muhammad Ali's quote: "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"?), and Pickle might have gone after dinosaurs all his life, but he stayed away from these kind of bugs... |
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Post by ungora on Aug 23, 2016 19:53:12 GMT
I wonder if Baki will ever have a re-fight against Musashi, he's not even been shown as training anymore, and Motobe even managed to convince him he had no chance at all.
And what after Musashi will kill Motobe ? what's next ? there's none on Musashi level left in the Baki cast of grapplers, Yujiro being not interested anymore apparently and everyone else being way weaker than Musashi to even put a fight.
That's the danger i think with making overpowered characters, it worked when Yujiro was the only one as the story focused on everyone else struggles, but with the story focusing only on Musashi like now, it's hard to get things exciting for that character as out of Baki and Yujiro that aren't going to fight him, everyone else is set much weaker so it's just going to add names on Musashi kills list.
Out of Motobe that got some upgrade for that story, but can't imagine him taking out someone that managed to fight on par with Yujiro.
Unless he use what would be real world ninja techniques today : take a sniper rifle and shoot Musashi from very far in the head when he's the most exposed
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Post by onepenguin0 on Aug 23, 2016 21:09:41 GMT
MUSASHI VS ALI JR HYPE
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Post by dannythm on Aug 24, 2016 12:15:59 GMT
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Post by kenaih on Aug 27, 2016 15:17:17 GMT
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Post by onepenguin0 on Aug 27, 2016 18:04:54 GMT
Don't click on the above link if you don't intend to give Wild Fang money/exposure.
Regardless, they got the vague gist of the chapter. 60% of the lines are made-up and 15% are bad mistranslations, but the message is still there. Message is: Musashi has a cutting fetish, Pickle tries to into anatomy and also stops wanting to eat M-dog because of his bad experience with the wasp or whatever (presumably). They can have this one; I think redrawing 122 would be far too much effort (even for me), really. Though that may change if I get bored or intoxicated enough. Always really great/terrible to redraw while blasted on Xanax. At any rate, I'll pick back up at 123 if it doesn't have equivocally nonsensical redraws.
Other, and tangentially related, news/updates: the SpinyBack project or group or whatever we are has (as I'm sure you've all noticed) kinda slowed down due to the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune (read: life's a bitch sometimes). I am sorry if that's disappointing to any of you, but we are trying the best we can under the circumstances. While the Grappler Baki scanlations should be back on schedule sooner rather than later, and hype for 最強トーナメント; I cannot guarantee the same for the Baki Dou translations. That's 50% of why I'm releasing the Pickle fight against WFP; I feel a certain responsibility, that we should at least be putting *something* out. Once the dust has settled and Dou is back on track, I'll be taking down my independently released versions so that the group's work stands as the definitive/'conclusive' interpretation.
But back to the chapter: who here thinks Motobe is going to interfere *right now*? I do. As you may recall, he says earlier that he ought to at least try to save Pickle. He sure hasn't tried yet, and I think he's running out of time. Who's longing for some Motobe Madness? Anyone else wanna venture a guess for next week's chapter? Perhaps we should start betting on these. I feel like that would make this whole moribund Musashi-always-wins thing a little bit more fun.
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Post by boi on Aug 27, 2016 18:42:58 GMT
Motobe will definately try to save Pickle. At least, I hope he will.
If we each have $100 of fake money, I would bet around $10 that he will.
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Post by kenaih on Aug 28, 2016 23:45:20 GMT
I think this is showing Pickle didn't really entered the arena as a warrior eager to fight Musashi, but as a hunter eager to devour his prey, way different than the time he fought Baki... when he did it for his pride as a fighter. That's why he just sees the whole situation as not worth to go on anymore.
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Post by shenlong on Aug 29, 2016 1:06:47 GMT
Well, Baki wasn't straight up murdering him either. I think that's actually a pretty important theme of this arc. The Baki cast subscribe to this ideology that pride is the most important thing ever, and that's what they fight for. They may injure or maim each other, but the fists always come out victorious and once it's over, people remember a great fight. Now, they have to face someone who's just as good as them, but who has no problems with killing if his opponent doesn' admit defeat and just keeps coming at him, and is perfectly capable of killing them. Being persistent and stubborn used to be a virtue, now it can very well get you killed. A fight in which both fighters put everything used to be a great fight, now it's a fight to the death. Retsu's fight was a good fight but what the spectators and characters took out of it was "Shit, he's really dead."
Musashi's character is actually kind of interesting in this way. He knows what's at stake and while he enjoys fighting strong opponents and discovering techniques, killing is a means to an end. That doesn't make him less of a fighter than the other Baki characters, just a less idealistic and more pragmatic one.
You could Argue Yujiro already had this real danger to him, but I don't know, it seems to me he was very distant most of the time and he tended to kill out of sheer dickery (Yanagi) more than because he was trying to take someone down.
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