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Post by jedah on Sept 12, 2016 15:54:56 GMT
Thanks for the latest chapter. Baki does his best Calvin Klein male model impression on the first page. Motobe got his licks in on Musashi, but we've established that Musashi likes to play possum in the beginning of a fight. He's probably still getting a grasp on Motobe's style. If Motobe is intelligent, he'll continue to take away Musashi's tools, as he did in this chapter. Does this opening attack mean that Motobe is equal or close to Musashi's speed? Edit:And since you asked about Musashi's wound - it doesn't seem to be troubling him, which is strange. Pickle took a healthy bite, and I would hope that Motobe would focus on his injury, and might attempt to bleed him out. Motobe is all about "no rules," so opening up a wound is right up his alley. onepenguin, you have a good point about being sued for mocking Trump. That's why Itagaki should give him the fictional name, Ronald Plump. |
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Post by shenlong on Sept 12, 2016 19:23:35 GMT
Well, it seemed relatively big in the last panel, but there were a few where it was pretty small. It mostly looks like a flesh wound, though, even though he's basically got no skin there anymore.
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Post by onepenguin0 on Sept 12, 2016 21:47:08 GMT
Motobe got his licks in on Musashi, but we've established that Musashi likes to play possum in the beginning of a fight. He's probably still getting a grasp on Motobe's style. If Motobe is intelligent, he'll continue to take away Musashi's tools, as he did in this chapter. Does this opening attack mean that Motobe is equal or close to Musashi's speed? Look here at Musashi's eye - it's completely open, despite this being the page after he's supposedly blinded by Motobe's [thing]. Quite possible that M-sashi coulda stopped him but didn't, à la every other one of his fights so far.  I was seriously going to make the same comment as you, Danny (re: the wounds). Stap sapping my thoughts. |
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Post by boi on Sept 13, 2016 3:42:11 GMT
About the eye thing - it seems that one eye wasn't affected. Even his vision looks blurry on one side and completely fine on the other. Could explain why his eye was wide open in that panel.
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Post by onepenguin0 on Sept 13, 2016 3:55:32 GMT
Point remains that he wasn't fully blinded and probably could have stopped Motobe.
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Post by dannythm on Sept 13, 2016 14:09:38 GMT
Why would you sotp someone that pose no threat to you? Do you guys stp little abies when they punch or kick you when playing?
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Post by ungora on Sept 13, 2016 22:05:43 GMT
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Post by onepenguin0 on Sept 13, 2016 22:56:58 GMT
What I find curious about that chapter 90 comment "...that puts him on a different level than all the others I have faced here" is that Musashi doesn't include Yuujiro in his count. Even kendo guy is in the picture, and Musashi didn't really fight him. So what does he consider Yuujiro? Somebody outside of his *own* league? An equal that he doesn't want to deal with?
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Post by jedah on Sept 13, 2016 23:26:44 GMT
What I find curious about that chapter 90 comment "...that puts him on a different level than all the others I have faced here" is that Musashi doesn't include Yuujiro in his count. Even kendo guy is in the picture, and Musashi didn't really fight him. So what does he consider Yuujiro? Somebody outside of his *own* league? An equal that he doesn't want to deal with? Good point, and I would guess that they're almost equally matched, or pretty close to it. An equal that he doesn't want to deal with is a good way to describe it. This assumes Yujiro is using his demon-back powers, and Musashi is using his double sword style, and they're both trying to seriously kill each other. However, thanks to Motobe and his meddling, we may never know the outcome... Then again, Musashi calls Yujiro "Mighty One," which is almost the same way a mortal human would address a demi-god. If Yujiro remained the strongest man on earth, that would be consistent with the rest of the manga's history... I guess Baki was bumped back down to the B-team after his big fight with Dad? He put up a pathetic display against Motobe and his knife. I'm not even sure you can call that a "fight." I'm really hoping Motobe gets destroyed by Musashi, and Baki hops into the arena for round two with Musashi. I wanna see Baki use the Triceratops dash on Musashi, and drive him through the wall, like something straight out of Looney Tunes.
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Here's an unrelated thought... Didn't Kaku Kaioh easily knock out Motobe while he was sparring with Retsu Kaioh? Kaku knocked Motobe out cold, with a quick strike. And Motobe is apparently "the real deal" and a "true warrior" and all that jazz. Does this mean that Musashi could be KO'ed by Kaku Kaioh as well? |
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Post by onepenguin0 on Sept 14, 2016 0:29:21 GMT
I don't think I'd call a steaming fist a 'quick strike', but yeah, Kaku could probably hypothetically knock out Musashi. All the relevant characters have been shown to be technically able to do that, it's just that they'll never be given the opportunity by Musashi. Baki downed Musashi, Doppo cut his face with the kick, Shibukawa dropped him, etc. Only 'main' character who got shafted was Gaia, I think.  |
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Post by ungora on Sept 14, 2016 17:39:26 GMT
The Kaku Kaioh is a very special case, not only because he's older than any other humans but still able to fight and destroy anyone, and remember during his fight with Yujiro , he even forced at some point Yujiro to back down in New Grappler Baki because he knew even he couldn't take that specific attack as easily as everything else : kissmanga.com/Manga/New-Grappler-Baki/231?id=88001Something none else did, even Baki in Son of the Ogre never had his father moving back from any of the son attacks at any point of the fight. That should tell that on the fight capacity tiers, Kaku Kaioh is definitively on the upper levels, and while obviously not Yujiro-level he should still be above the heavy majority of the grapplers, end-Son of Ogre Baki should still be above Kaku Kaioh, but Baki Dou- Baki that seemed to have a noticable downgrade probably not. It's no surprise then that he took Motobe , the man supposed to be prepared against everything (or was it Batman  ) , by ... surprise |
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Post by shenlong on Sept 14, 2016 18:29:40 GMT
Kaku would be an interesting matchup actually. I think it's fair to say that his strength isn't limited to hand to hand fighting. He's obviously proficient with probably all chinese weapons which, alone, might put him on equal footing with Musashi, but like Motobe, he sees the big picture. He had a draw with Yujiro on a technicality that "there's no winner if someone is dead before the conclusion". He's not the type to rush towards his own death out of pride and he's willing to think outside the box in order to win or, at worst avoid losing.
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Post by onepenguin0 on Sept 15, 2016 5:05:55 GMT
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Post by shenlong on Sept 15, 2016 10:17:13 GMT
Nice one !
Well, I think this pretty much confirms my suspicions. The people in the Bakiverse are a bunch of 12 years old. A being that survived for thousands if not millions of years and maybe the first and only successful human clone with the resurrected persona of a man who dies hundreds of years ago. Let's see what happens when they fight !
What the fuck, Japan. A bunch of fights that actually happened in Pride FC suddenly make total sense.
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Post by ungora on Sept 15, 2016 13:43:23 GMT
Well, in Japan they have Yoshihiko and mechs that shoot when you smile. So the events in Baki make perfect sense |
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