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Post by boggyb on Jun 15, 2017 14:46:04 GMT
I still have the feeling there is a strong chance this will fall through. Last Mayweather fight (I think the one after Pacquiao) put me to sleep, literally; so I am not precisely look forward to this. This isn't some fight announced for a middle-eastern country with a purse that is insane relative to what the fighters normally make. Those ALWAYS fall through. I'm sure whoever is putting up the money for the guarantees for this is credible. I suppose someone could get injured, but like Domestic Violence vs. Execute homosexuals, I bet the show would go on with the possible exception of a leg injury to Mayweather. (that would be because if he can't run, Mayweather could lose, but even still, I bet he could just stand there for 12 rounds and shut down McGregor) |
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Post by shenlong on Jun 16, 2017 19:29:14 GMT
You have got to be kidding me. Well, at least, 26 of august, that's like a bit more than two months. Not too far away. This is going to be stupid.
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Post by tanimotonatsu on Jun 25, 2017 16:04:14 GMT
What a joke. This is nothing but a circus act.
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Post by onepenguin0 on Jul 14, 2017 16:54:43 GMT
Did you all hear yet? The PPV for this is $99.95.
Can I expect none of you to pay that?
Never understood the insanity of paying such maddening prices on things like this.
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Post by shenlong on Jul 14, 2017 18:41:02 GMT
A HUNDRED BUCKS !? Jesus fucking christ, and what's the price of a live ticket ? Goddamn, there's already no way I'm paying 60 bucks for a great card of fights (especially since even the best card can turn out to be), but a hundred for a freakshow match ? Come on. Even Pride FC would be ashamed.
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Post by jedah on Jul 14, 2017 18:54:33 GMT
A hundred bucks to watch Mayweather run laps around the boxing ring, lol.
For a hundred bucks, you could pay for an HBO NOW subscription for several months, and watch a mega-marathon of all their On-Demand boxing matches from the last few years, plus all their other shows.
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Post by shenlong on Jul 14, 2017 21:43:00 GMT
Will Mayweather run that many laps ? If there ever was a fight where he should get a KO, it's this one. Sure, he won't take a single risk, but the difference in boxing skill should be more than enough for him to finish McGregor in the middle rounds. I can't even begin to think what the latter and his camp are thinking beyond getting their paycheck. That Conor himself would be deluded enough to think he actually has a shot here is conceivable, dude seems like he has bottomless self confidence, but what sort of coach and corner brings their fighter to the slaughterhouse like that ? Are they a bunch of yes-men who are just there for the big bucks ? Do they look at it as some sort of experiment, like "how many rounds can we manage to make Conor last ?", is it loyalty towards Conor, while making it clear to him he has very little chance, or do they really think they can win ?
I'm so puzzled by so many aspects of this thing.
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Post by boggyb on Jul 15, 2017 15:10:41 GMT
Will Mayweather run that many laps ? If there ever was a fight where he should get a KO, it's this one. Sure, he won't take a single risk, but the difference in boxing skill should be more than enough for him to finish McGregor in the middle rounds. I can't even begin to think what the latter and his camp are thinking beyond getting their paycheck. That Conor himself would be deluded enough to think he actually has a shot here is conceivable, dude seems like he has bottomless self confidence, but what sort of coach and corner brings their fighter to the slaughterhouse like that ? Are they a bunch of yes-men who are just there for the big bucks ? Do they look at it as some sort of experiment, like "how many rounds can we manage to make Conor last ?", is it loyalty towards Conor, while making it clear to him he has very little chance, or do they really think they can win ? I'm so puzzled by so many aspects of this thing. Mayweather will run laps because he needs to extend the fight and doing that while pretending to fight is more risky. |
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Post by jedah on Jul 15, 2017 17:00:28 GMT
Shen, I agree that Mayweather has the superior boxing skill. He's annoyingly talented and gifted at landing counters/having a polished defense. That being said, Coach Kamogawa would give him an "F" for courage and guts.
Floyd is gonna evade/dodge/run and pick his shots carefully. Not terribly exciting to watch, but he knows his opponent is outclassed (at least in this specific sport), so he'll hold the advantage throughout the entire match. By getting pulled into a brawl, Conor would actually have a chance to land a lucky shot and rock Mayweather. That's exactly what he'll aim to avoid.
Mayweather will go for low risk/high reward boxing, by making Conor tire himself out and going the distance with him. Floyd can hang in there and rely on his stamina, this isn't his first rodeo. By round 8-10, I predict he'll will turn up his offense and start going for power shots. Most likely he won't get the KO, but you never know. If he does, it'll be because Conor made a rookie mistake and left himself open to a massive counter punch.
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Post by shenlong on Jul 15, 2017 21:50:33 GMT
Both arguments make sense. That said, Boggyb, does Mayweather really need to pretend the fight is risky ? Once people have bought their seats and PPVs, that's all the money he gets, right ? Unless he's banking on luring viewers into buying another MMA vs boxing match, I don't think he needs to draw the fight out anymore than comfortable for him. This is the guy who KO'd Ortiz when the latter wanted to apologize to him. He likes money, but I seriously doubt he intends to leave McGregor the slightest chance of winning. If he sees an opportunity to finish him, he'll take it, and Conor will give him plenty.
Jedah, you might be right about Mayweather's gameplan, but you may be overestimating McGregor. He's a brilliant fighter, no doubt, but in boxing the clinch and kicks are out and the kicks especially are a central part of his game. In terms of boxing, he's got a decent jab, and an excellent left straight (in MMA standards) and that's it. He can go the distance in a 5 rounds MMA fight, but he's never had to fight for 10 rounds. Now, he's fighting a guy who's got almost 50 boxing fights under his belt and is an ace of not getting hit.
My personal prediction is Mayweather schools McGregor for the first 3 rounds. In round 5, McGregor is totally gased from whiffing all the time and from Mayweather's on and off clinching game. From there on, Mayweather has a field day and gets the finish by round 7, and that's giving McGregor a LOT of credit.
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Post by tanimotonatsu on Jul 18, 2017 14:09:50 GMT
Did you all hear yet? The PPV for this is $99.95. Can I expect none of you to pay that? Never understood the insanity of paying such maddening prices on things like this. Ha. No. I'm either going to watch this circus act at a pub or casino with some friends. For free. Probably won't be worth watching, but I have to admit to being somewhat curious as to how it'll play out. I know the chances of McGregor winning are slim to none, but I'm still going to hope he can pull off a miracle. He's a douche, but Mayweather is a far bigger douche. |
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Post by jedah on Jul 19, 2017 21:23:13 GMT
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Post by jedah on Jul 19, 2017 21:46:54 GMT
Also, Joe Rogan talking about Mayweather vs. McGregor. A real shame we'll never see Mayweather in an MMA fight. I mean, yeah, of course Mayweather would get destroyed in that context. No contest. Joe talks about McGregor's destructive one-punch potential, and talks about his size advantage, but what use is that if he can't hit Floyd? Floyd will run the whole time. Count on it. He doesn't want to take any chances. How humiliating would it be if a defensive expert got clocked by an MMA star? It's not gonna happen. |
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Post by shenlong on Jul 19, 2017 22:46:15 GMT
He'll run, but he'll have to land some punches to get the rounds. That will pile up and McGregor will have to work extra hard on trying to connect. I don't, know, maybe he's had an amazing training, but I doubt he's accustomed himself to running after someone to punch them really hard while getting stung every other missed connection. I don't really think Mayweather needs to look for the finish in order to stop McGregor (and I totally agree that he won't go out of his way to look for a big punch). It'll just happen naturally. Maybe a TKO as he gets downed too many times, or his corner stops the fight in between rounds. That kind of stuff. As the point gap increases, he'll have to try harder and harder and that's when he'll leave himself open.
Of course, that's assuming both fighters are actually serious about this. I could also see McGregor coasting, even when he's outpointed, specifically so he doesn't tire himself too much. Won't win him the fight, but it would let him go the distance. Mayweather could also, while keeping the fight safe for him, go easy on the counter punching so the fight lasts longer and it doesn't look TOO easy. Or because he wants to mess Conor's face up.
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Post by paraparajmo on Jul 27, 2017 20:41:43 GMT
I'd rather see Mayweather fight Big Show again
or see Mayweather and McGregor read a page of Harry Potter.
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