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Post by shenlong on Aug 27, 2017 19:03:22 GMT
Dumb as shit but really entertaining. I'd say get it if you can. Just don't pay for it.
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Post by jedah on Aug 27, 2017 20:57:12 GMT
Since reddit has spoiled the outcome, I'm not sure if it's worth watching. I suppose the match being spoiled was inevitable; unless you're willing to unplug yourself from the internet entirely, somebody was gonna say something, somewhere. The publicity surrounding the fight was too huge. Anyway, Shen's writeup was good, and mirrors some of the other summaries I've read.
So do you guys think this event will hurt boxing, or help revive the sport?
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Post by shenlong on Aug 27, 2017 22:20:33 GMT
You should have been quicker. The very first thing I did this morning after turning my computer on was get a stream of the fight. Honestly, I'd advise checking it out, it's a good fight. It's not an close fight at all, but it's a great case study and it's never boring.
As for the rest, I think it's more a symptom than a disease, but who knows. I have no idea if this will encourage promoters to do other fights like that. This is a pretty special match. McGregor is an aberration of MMA. The UFC did with him what they tried to do with Ronda Rousey but couldn't because she had a shit trainer and was incapable of evolving (she was also the subject of an imaginary fight with Mayweather). He's an amazing fighter, but there are dozens in the UFC, he's also got a very entertaining style, a stupidly loud mouth, and, somehow, the UFC was able to recognize that potential in him and basically manufactured his rise to fame by giving him just the right matchups and getting him almost everything he wanted. He's the spoiled child of the UFC, they did everything they could to make him famous, and he was good enough to keep winning and clever or lucky enough to not fuck up his public image (Jon Jones is a much more accomplished fighter, but he's just not "clean" anymore).
And on the other side, you have Mayweather who's this holy grail of boxing and has an aura nobody else has right now in the sport (and really, all combat sport). It really is "the money fight", it's not so much the styles that people are made the fight as the absolute weirdness of those two people. So the question is, what now ? The fight happened and went pretty much as expected as the boxer put a clinic on the MMA fighter. McGregor did better than a lot anticipated, me included, but he still had no chance in that fight, but that won't stop people (promoters) talking it up as a war. So what next ? I don't know. Maybe people agree to stop fucking around and business keeps going as usual. Maybe everybody gets hun up on the what ifs. What if McGregor had a second wind in round 11, what if he landed that left straight, what if he fought Malignaggi, or Pacquiao (Southpaw vs southpaw : there can be only one left (get it ? "left", heh)). I don't really see anyone in MMA stepping up, though, they just don't have McGregor's carefully crafted aura, but again who knows : Diaz vs Mayweather, Stockton slap vs Philly Shell, watch Nate Diaz utterly confused as he wonders how to flip the bird with boxing gloves. I just don't fucking know.
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Post by godwood on Aug 28, 2017 8:59:46 GMT
One things for sure Ricardo Martinez would never beat Floyd "Money" Mayweather.
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Post by shenlong on Aug 28, 2017 13:57:41 GMT
Definitely not, cause if he could, Mayweather wouldn't fight him to begin with.
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Post by duke on Aug 29, 2017 8:43:22 GMT
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Post by jedah on Aug 29, 2017 16:12:39 GMT
Wasn't there some special agreement written into the match's contract, where McGregor would only receive a small fraction of the fight money if he used an illegal move (like an elbow), or got DQ'ed? He had to abide by standard boxing rules so he could become filthy freakin' rich.
Dude never needs to work again. He lost the "fight" but won the game of life.
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Post by shenlong on Aug 29, 2017 17:14:18 GMT
That's probably only if he got DQ'd, cause he didn't hesitate to hammerfist Mayweather on the back of the head a few times in the clinch. The referee was pretty lenient when it came to fouls like that and never deducted a point for the hammerfists. Both fighters got some sneaky shit through during the match.
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Post by ryuoken on Aug 30, 2017 14:42:31 GMT
I expected a much worse shitshow. Mcgregor never really stood a chance..
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Post by paraparajmo on Sept 11, 2017 11:56:11 GMT
Mayweather treated it more or less like a spar. He let McGregor wear himself out and exploited his inexperience in boxing. On that weekend, I didn't know what was more predictable, the outcome of this match or that the American Death Note was going to suck.
Other than that, K-1 owns
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Post by boggyb on Sept 17, 2017 4:08:47 GMT
You made a point about the judges having heavy Canelo-bias, do you still believe GGG requires the KO to win? GGG is capable of it, without a doubt. That's a match I want to see. Couldn't care less about Mayweather, though. I'm sure De La Hoya will assemble the finest set of judges (The one who scored the Mayweather fight a draw, the one who scored the Lara fight 117-111 to Canelo, and the one who scored the Cotto fight 119-109 for Canelo.) and get a ref who makes the one from Elliot vs. Volg seem good. If GGG wants to win, I think he literally has to knock Canelo out. De La Hoya went cheap. He only bought one judge and failed to tell her to make it look like it wasn't rigged.
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