Mayweather vs McGregor

[jedah]

Jul 27, 2017 20:41:43 GMT paraparajmo said:

or see Mayweather and McGregor read a page of Harry Potter.

lmao dude.

Now that might justify the $100 PPV fee.

Mayweather: "Harry soon arrived... at Hahg.. Hahhga... Hahhgaa... Wahr..

McGregor: "IT SAYS FOOKIN' "HOGWARTS," YOU WANKER. Innit sad, mates? This fookin' tosser can't read a word on the page!"

*eight bodyguards quickly surround McGregor*

[paraparajmo]

Or they can just face each other at SummerSlam under WWF rules (and I still refuse to call it WWE)

[jedah]

Hmm... McGregor vs. Mayweather under SummerSlam rules. Mayweather would still run... and he'd keep running, until he had a folding chair!

[boggyb]

The fight is going to be fought wearing 8oz gloves rather than the standard 10oz for fights over 148lbs.

[shenlong]

So I've read I guess. Well, I'll update my prediction to Mayweather by decision. Like, crushing decision, but still decision. Still wouldn't be surprised by a finish in the middle rounds, though.

Seriously, until kicks are allowed (like never), McGregor is getting slayed all over the place, no argument.

[jedah]

Agreed that kicks (or elbows) being permitted would make a WORLD of difference, although sadly you're right, it'll never happen.

Joe Rogan made the argument that Mayweather couldn't clinch if elbows were permitted. Plus, even though he's got ridiculous boxing experience, he isn't used to countering elbows - the angles and timing are different from say, a cross or a jab. Close counter exchanges would favor McGregor big time if he could use more of his MMA tools.

But Mayweather, for all his faults, is still cautious, and a smart businessman. He knows damn well that he'd lose if they used anything resembling MMA rules.

[shenlong]

I don't know about elbows. It would definitely be an equalizer, yes. That said, I don't remember them being an integral part of McGregor's game, like they are for Jon Jones for example. Plus, this might be underestimating boxers' experience with dealing with them. They are illegal, but sneaking an elbow behind a punch where the referee can't see is a thing, and probably something Mayweather has had to deal with during his career more than a few times. I believe he's also pretty dexterous with his own left elbow himself. He's got this high elbow guard that can let him press on an opponent's right hand, block the right hand, or just be stuck out if an opponent is dashing head first to get inside (it's a fine line, but if the the guy gets hurt by basically headbutting an elbow, it's not really illegal).

So I'd say Mayweather, being the brilliant technician that he is, is no stranger to a lot of ways elbows can be used, and it is probably the area he could develop the quickest and most effectively, had they been allowed. They would definitely help, McGregor since it's one more tool that he actually is familiar with that he could use, but I wouldn't bet on it being a game changer. It is completely different from kicks, which would be game over for Mayweather. McGregor is excellent at using them and would simply stomp on his front leg all night long to keep him from even being in range to punch. Then, low kicks would further make Mayweather's life miserable and middle and high, would confuse him and push him around the ring. But yeah, anyway, the 8 thingie thick gloves are as far as the adjustments will ever be made for that fight in the US as no legitimate commission would allow weird unique rules. This is a boxing match and it will remain that way. Only Japan would allow that kind of weirdness, and the Japanese commissions can't promise as much money as the US ones.

Anyway, I guess we'll get the answer to the question "will McGregor make it to the end of the match" in about a week. Finally, we can put this behind us and maybe McGregor can go back to fighting legitimate fight and, I dunno, defend his belt or something.

[boggyb]

The only way this fight has a positive outcome is if something from the roof breaks off killing Mayweather Jr., Mayweather Sr., and McGregor.

If Floyd wins, it was expected and he makes a shit ton of money for what is likely his easiest fight in the last 15 years.
If McGregor wins, boxing for real dies. The sport is on life support in terms of public support after Domestic Violence vs. Kill Gays and it can't survive the best talent of the generation losing to an MMA fighter.
If McGregor loses but uses MMA moves, Floyd makes even more money. (I assume the 90% that McGregor forfeits would go to Floyd)

[Exe]

Well, no surprises I guess.

[jedah]

one glimpse at reddit's front page and the outcome was immediately spoiled.. lol, figures.

[tanimotonatsu]

Well, at least it was more entertaining than MayPac. Still predictable though.

That said, I am glad this circus act is over.

[shenlong]

Just as planned. I'll still give McGregor his due, the guy fought like a lion and basically did everything in his power to win. He did not just come to collect his paycheck. Mayweather didn't look perfect, but he fought a very good and clever fight and there was no question at the end. He lost some rounds, but was never in trouble, and he put the pressure on McGregor to make him tired quicker. He never landed any massive shots, but he landed often and made him work for everything and that piled up dramatically in the end.

The fight was really entertaining, and that's really thanks to MacGregor's inexperience. He tried hurting Mayweather from the start and had enough holes in his boxing that Mayweather could let loose and take measured risks to chase him constantly. But still, even tough Mayweather was using the first three rounds to let him work, McGregor did land, showed a functional jab, decent footwork and great toughness. He's got nothing to be ashamed of (save taking that fight to begin with).

[duke]

Still was a better fight than MayPac. At some point for a moment I thought it will turn into a Sawamura vs Mashiba fight but sadly it didn't happen.

[shenlong]

A fight like that wouldn't be possible against most top boxers. They wouldn't have wailed on Mayweather the way McGregor did and wouldn't have gassed and become a punching bag as a result. They have a lot more defensive options than him, and they don't gun for a sure KO, because they know you can't really bet your gameplan on a finish against top boxers. The KO is something that just happens if you do your job well long enough. Plus, the clinch was something Mayweather was more looking to avoid at first as McGregor had more power there and didn't hesitate to foul (I'm honestly surprised nobody got any point deducted, that was not a clean fight), so there weren't that many instances where the fight stopped for a while.

You know, it's funny, but in the end, Mayweather adopted Nate Diaz's gameplan for the second half of his second fight with McGregor. Just advance with the guard up to deny the counter and unload in close quarters where McGregor can't use his straight left effectively. They definitely saw that fight, which makes sense as that was the closest McGregor had fought to a boxing match in recent years and showed a very effective way to negate his best weapon and strategy that he only had an imperfect way to counter. Plus, that plan was much more effective in boxing. Diaz had to raise his forearms to cover his head, which left his midsection vulnerable, but here, with the boxing gloves, Mayweather could form a much better guard. It's a simplistic tactic, really, but a fun one to watch, and the simplest and most effective way to deal with McGregor quickly.

Other than that, I'm sure Floyd could have used his usual philly shell and distance style to win almost all rounds and work to counter McGregor, but it would have been a much slower fight and likely a decision. He chose a much more offensive gameplan with a high chance of a finish because he had seen that tactic work, and he knew McGregor doesn't have the tools to deal with that given his inexperience and the fact he had trained for the classic Floyd style (Mayweather didn't seem tired at all after 10 rounds of an offensive strategy, shows that McGregor couldn't force him to adjust much after round 3).

[K']

too dumb; didn't watch