Kengan Asura

[dannythm]

New chapter on comickey as always.

I'm glad the plot is evolving somehow, but man, this is starting to look as stupid as I thought it would be, all the threads revolving the clones and the mind transfer. I really miss the simplicity of Ashura where only political and economic intrigues were at stake, I think betting billions of dollars to a single fight between two dudes was decent diving force.

Now, Adam being able to react to blink is a ncie power up, let's see where this goes from here.

[jedah]

Oct 13, 2022 14:01:10 GMT dannythm said:

New chapter on comickey as always.

I'm glad the plot is evolving somehow, but man, this is starting to look as stupid as I thought it would be, all the threads revolving the clones and the mind transfer. I really miss the simplicity of Ashura where only political and economic intrigues were at stake, I think betting billions of dollars to a single fight between two dudes was decent diving force.

Now, Adam being able to react to blink is a ncie power up, let's see where this goes from here.

Agreed, go Adam! Plot armor means Adam will probably lose, which sucks, but I appreciated that he at least reacted to blink. I mean, he's seen it before, and Ryuki is pretty predictable by now, he uses the same attack patterns a lot.

Adam saying "I'M GONNA WRING YOUR ASS OUT, KID" was the highlight of the chapter.

[dannythm]

Go go Adam, but still, he will lose.

The fight is being good tho.

[dannythm]

Plot armor, in any other fight the ref would have stopped it already.

And I wonder how Ryuki will fare with the amount of ribs that should be piercing his lungs at the moment.

[shenlong]

Well it's about time Ryuki gets himself a significant win if you ask me. The manga is not making him look good in this fight, for sure, but we've seen worse beatdowns before.

[dannythm]

Bullshit ending to the fight, oh well, now we got the exciting fight everyone has been looking for!

[shenlong]

Well, I don't know. I like that it stayed consistent with Ryuki's assassination style. It's sketchy, sure, but I like the idea that the best martial artist doesn't necessarily win. So okay, that neck jab thingy was a little forced, but we've had similar techniques before, like Muteba's heart jab. Now, Muteba vs Ryuki would be a cool fight.

It might not be a very satisfying ending, but for once, I think that's kind of the intent.



Hm, one thing that I think is missing a little from Omega compared to Ashura is the narration during the fight. You have the commentators, sure, but often, you also had narration going through the moves, and explaining what both fighters are thinking. It helped get into the fight and give a sense of drama, and it's a bit of a shame that mode of narration hasn't really shown up (at least that I can remember).

[ungora]

I'm definitively not fan of the ending too, that felt more like "Niko Style : PABOFK " (Plot Armor Because Of Must Fight Koga) than actually an underdog style of win.
Maybe if for the whole match Adam had not utterly destroyed Ryuki, the finish wouldn't have felt like bullshit.

I hope that at least there will be lingering damage from the intense beating he took, as something i really liked in Ashura is how you could feel that Ohma condition was really impacted by all the fights he was going through.

It's true the narration can be helpful in building up the fight tension, as that's exactly what make the difference in wrestling in a bingo hall or wrestling on TV, you have a commentary system on TV wrestling shows that for the spectating crowd can turn your worst completely fake punch into a devastating haymaker.

[shenlong]

Nov 3, 2022 17:13:54 GMT ungora said:

I'm definitively not fan of the ending too, that felt more like "Niko Style : PABOFK " (Plot Armor Because Of Must Fight Koga) than actually an underdog style of win.
Maybe if for the whole match Adam had not utterly destroyed Ryuki, the finish wouldn't have felt like bullshit.

I see your point, but I'd argue Ryuki wouldn't have needed to act out of it if he hadn't been pounded on for most of the fight. It might be exagerated, but it's an exageration that makes sense from a narrative point of view in my opinion.

[ungora]

Maybe, but i think the "that guy body is utterly destroyed so he can now show his real power to win" trope isn't really the best narrative method to use for that case.

[shenlong]

Except that's not what happened. He didn't use his "real power", he just looked so beat that Adam dropped his guard and let him sneak a decisive attack on him, which weakened him enough that he could then land a finishing move.

[ungora]

All i see is the "guy is destroyed and it's now he can show his real power" trope :

[shenlong]

Ok, that's what the vibe is, but in practical terms, is that what happened ?

[dannythm]

I am unsure if ther are "reveals" in this "chapter" of this was something we "already knew".

I guess some theories and plot lines are getting down to earth at last, but for now two fun fights are happening, even if the Ryuki vs Koga still feels forced.

Also, Koga is 100% in the right this chapter, so I hope he can punch Ryuki back into reason to go full circle.

[shenlong]

I don't know if he's "in the right". Both of them are arguing from a completely different framework. Koga's mindset is of wanting to be stronger, meaning for him, a victory should reflect a fighter's relative skill to his opponent. Ryuki generally isn't concerned with the idea of being more or less skilled than someone else, only in his ability to achieve victory. As an assassin, that means being able to kill his targets, and as a fighter (which he really wasn't trained to be, originally), that means getting his hand raised after a fight, regardless if who was more "deserving".

Koga's outlook, in the context of the plot, is definitely less fucked up, but that doesn't make his point of view any more reasonable. There's really nothing reasonable about what any of these crazy motherfuckers are doing, honestly.